Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: More league tournies on diff days...
it's really hard for me to play in tha tournies sumtimes...I werk from 8am-4:30pm m-f so any 2:30 games are out of tha question...plus any 2:30am games are also unavailable...plus after werk I have to go to physical therapy for my knee for 2 hrs...
I'm not suggestin an addition of tournies simply bcuz of me...I'm sure other people have schedule conflicts...I find it a struggle to play in 5 league tournies and that lessens my chances at gettin a higher rank...
Understood, maybe if more sponsers are willing to host FFP, there will be more games available. This is great forum and league but like anything there is always room for improvement !
Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Posts: 722 Location: Payette, ID
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject:
This is something that has been gone over many many times......... The schedule hasn't changed much in over a year, and I don't see it happening any time soon.
I also work full time. I work Monday - Friday from 6am-2pm. I am in Mountain time zone so a 14:30 game for me is actually at 12:30 when I'm at work. I can't stay up for a midnight game on Tuesday nights because I have to get up at 5am. I also don't stay up for the Friday night tournies because I got up at 5 am that morning and I'm ready to crash by 10:30. I also have a 6 year old and a 2 year old, as well as a husband. I need to spend time with my family, I need to do laundry, I need to cook dinner, I need to do the dishes, I need to pick up the house............ Shall I go on?
My point is this. I still can find the time to play in 5 tournies in a month. Do I post as good of scores as I used to? Do I end up near the top of the rankings page like I used to? NO. I don't. I used to play every single leauge tourney with very few exceptions. So of course, I had more oportunities to post good scores. But.... my family was suffering because I was putting poker before them. And that is a problem. So..... I put my family first. I don't really worry about where I finish in the rankings that much any more.... In fact, I don't think I even looked at where I finished last month....... lol
At any rate..... I don't think it is that difficult to get in 5 games out of aprox 30 that we play each month...... Especially when most of them are on the weekends. But, maybe that is just me...... I'm probably wrong... that happens alot..... _________________ My family puts the "fun" in dysfunctional
I agree if you think about it plenty of website have freerolls everyday that we could use. Jetset has at least 5 a day, so what if you just used 5 days a week 3 tourneys a day, like make it monday wednesday friday saturday and sunday. Pokerstars always has tournies. I dont know how well that could go down, but if you think about it is possible. Just thought i would give my imput.
I wouldn't object to anything admin does in this regard because they have done quite well and been very consistent since the league started.
I don't think I would object to more or less games although the last stud h/l game was a great change but pretty dam late!
In regards to it being hard to post 5 scores take this:
In Scooby's league last december you had to finnish top 20 (since changed to 30) just to be eligable to make the rankings board and he only has one game on Mon., Wed, and Friday - thats it. I however was lucky enough to play in i think only 5 or 6 that entire month and won the league on the last day.
Anything can happen!
Great job admin!
Every couple of months we see the request for more games on different days. And while there really is no harm in asking, I can tell you with some certainty that the schedule will not be changing anytime soon. I have repeatedly said that this league is not for everyone. If the schedule that we have does not fit in with the requirements of your life, then you will have to satisfy your league poker jones elsewhere. There are other leagues out there that may fit in better with your schedule. That’s life.
I am curious though; would you join a Wednesday night handicapped mixed bowling league and then try to make them switch to playing on Tuesday mornings and Thursday afternoons, men only, scratch, nine pin no-tap??
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kidding, the dates and times are what they are... they are not set to everyone's schedule. Hell, I would have loved to have the 2ish and 7ish games on sundays banned for footbal season. Hasn't stopped my pursuit of TBlaze, now has it. (or has it?????) _________________ Masters Student - Omaha Hi/Low
Outplaying University
GO Out U!
Joined: Jan 30, 2005 Posts: 2 Location: California
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject:
you think you have it bad... try living on Pacific time and working a 7:30 to 4:30 (PST) job and where no one gives a rat's hiney, or even so much as takes into consideration your time zone when scheduling these types of events. the fact that you're a whole 3 hours behind them in time and therefore don't have a shot in the dark at ever making it to anything scheduled earlier than 8:00pm Eastern time on weekdays, and really don't fancy waking up at 4:00 or 5:00 AM to make it to the 7:00 or 8:00 AM EST early bird tourneys on the weekends and such, just doesn't enter into their thoughts. trust me, it's quite infuriating and i totally sympathize with you.
now, i'm rather new here - well, ok... so i'm all of about 10 minutes old - but the point is, i haven't yet become familiar with the standard rules for posting and forum etiquette around here so please forgive me if this is a no-no. if it is then please just say so and i will edit out the following paragragh of my post without hesitation. just please don't completely delete my existance here as i do not mean to offend or defy the forum officials. just trying to help out a disgruntled member by informing them of other possibilities. but i only have the patience for so much riffling through and reading of so many forum threads per day and... well who really likes to start with the rules and regulations part of it, you know? don't worry, i will get to it... just not the very first thread i hit, is all. ok, so back to the issue:
JayCeeVU, and everyone else who DOESN'T live on the East Coast (and might i remind everyone that there are more people who don't than do), i suggest checking out The Blue Lizard Lounge for a good community to join if you're looking for tourneys scheduled at a more reasonable time. they're not exactly a 'league' as there are no over-all ranks calculated or any kind of accumulation of points or any prizes other than each individual tourney's set prize pool. but that also means there is no obligation to play in a required number of tourney's each month in order to maintain your membership status, either. it's simply a poker-loving forum community who regularly hold their own private freerolls at various card rooms. the only requirement they have is that you register as member of their forum and make but a single post there. after that, you can enter into any freeroll they have going (which typically fall on tuesdays and thursdays and between 7:30 pm EST and 10:00 PM EST) that you want to. and you can make it or not make it to the tourney; either way, no big deal.
to most everone else who's response to this topic seems, for the most part, rather hostile (if not altogether stuck-up),
you know... if it is a request that tends to keep cropping up over and over, as you say it does, well then gee... don't you think that it just might have some validity to it? and that it just might be something that needs to be addressed?
i mean obviously there is a great many people who have made clear the fact that the current schedule is NOT feasible for them and obviously there has been no effort made what-so-ever to respond to this request. claiming that the dificulty lies is in finding a sponsor who will host games at alternate times is simply ridiculous. as sportsman924 has pointed out, there are plenty who will. JetSet and Pokerstars to start. add Absolute, Poker Host and Tropics for few more. and... well... actually, just about any other card room out there that ISN'T on the Prima Poker or Playtech networks will indeed accomodate for tourneys to be held at any time of day or night.
really, it is the admin's conscious decision to hold the freerolls when they do and they do not have their hands tied when making this decision.
i'm sorry but i'd have to disagree with the viewpoint that this league has done quite well in regard to this particular matter if they won't even so much as acknowledge the rest of the world. perhaps consistancy is the single most negative attribute any given online schedule of events could possibly have. i mean are you open for the world to join you or aren't you?
if the league admin is absolutely dead-set on keeping the schedule as is then hey... they could always get rid of the 5 tourney a month requirement. would you be happier with that? as it is, with the 5 games a month requirement, keeping all tourneys on a schedule that is tailored to allow for only a select group of people to attend is akin to fixing a race. you already know who's going be in the running for win, place, and show long before the horses are on the track.
Obviously this league is not for you. You can not deal with or abide by the rules. The league has been around for far longer than the 10 minutes you have been here and I would expect it will be here long after you leave. The schedule is what it is - your schedule is what it is and they don't match. No one has an inherent right to be a part of this league and you have no right to declare that anyone change anything to appease you and your schedule. My advice is for you to find a league the fits your schedule.
If you find this post to be hostile or stuck up - too bad. I find your self-important, self righteous, 'appease me' attitude offensive. Your presence here was not requested - you came here looking to get in on some free cash. It is simple; to be a part of any community you must play by the rules of that community. If you don't care for the rules or mores of that community move on. _________________ I want to thank you girl
for teaching me brand new ways to be cruel
And if I can find my mind now, I guess I'll just leave
Joined: Dec 15, 2004 Posts: 152 Location: piscataway, nj
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject:
skj91 "and really don't fancy waking up at 4:00 or 5:00 AM to make it to the 7:00 or 8:00 AM EST early bird tourneys on the weekends"
I have been here for over a year and I really don't ever remember a tourney at 8 am on the weekend! Also, if you really look at it, the west coast has it better...the 2 am tourney for me, is 11 pm for you, I can stay up UNTIL 2 am to play, but not START at 2 am... But I live with it! The 2pm tourney on a Saturday, kinda right in the middle of my day... For you 11 am, much easier to start then and still have the afternoon to do things! The evening tourney 8pm on a Sunday... I have to stay up until midnight to finish! You can feasable end at 8pm and still get a good nights worth of tv watching and sleep!
Stop complaining it is what it is and most of us love it! You can leave, no one will mind! That is my 2 cents, take it for what it is worth!
Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Posts: 314 Location: Sunny Florida
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject:
Desdinova wrote:
If you find this post to be hostile or stuck up - too bad. I find your self-important, self righteous, 'appease me' attitude offensive. Your presence here was not requested - you came here looking to get in on some free cash. It is simple; to be a part of any community you must play by the rules of that community. If you don't care for the rules or mores of that community move on.
Well said Des. And btw skj91, I did find your post offensive. If you don't like it here, LEAVE!! Your attitude is not needed here. PERIOD
Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Posts: 722 Location: Payette, ID
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject:
My oh my oh my..............
I have not really gotten to go on a rant yet on these forums...... hmmmm.... debating one here..........
OK... maybe just a small one....
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to most everone else who's response to this topic seems, for the most part, rather hostile (if not altogether stuck-up),
I do not see anything hostile or stuck up about my first post, or Des's first post. We were simply explaining the way things are set up here. This is the way it is. This is the way the administration sees fit to run this league. Who are you to come in here and try to do it better? They have been doing a hell of a job for the last year and will continue to do so. Apparently you think you are the only one with a job and a life..... well.... you are WRONG!!!!!! All of the admin here has full time jobs.. They have families..... they give freely of their time, with no pay, no compensations whatsoever, and, I might add, with more critisism than praise most of the time.
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but i only have the patience for so much riffling through and reading of so many forum threads per day and... well who really likes to start with the rules and regulations part of it, you know? don't worry, i will get to it... just not the very first thread i hit, is all. ok, so back to the issue
Perhaps you should try reading the rules and regulations sections first..... It does seem to make sense to me when you come to a new place to try to figure out how the place works. What they expect of me, and what the place is all about in general...... Seems like a common courtesy to me...... But perhaps it makes more sense to you to come straight into a new place and start critisizing and making demands..... How can you even offer an educated opinion on the "issue" when you have no friggin clue what the league is about in the first place????????
Next issue.... where do you get off coming in here and advertising for another forum or league.... very very uncool..... that is all I have to say about that one.....
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if the league admin is absolutely dead-set on keeping the schedule as is then hey... they could always get rid of the 5 tourney a month requirement. would you be happier with that? as it is, with the 5 games a month requirement, keeping all tourneys on a schedule that is tailored to allow for only a select group of people to attend is akin to fixing a race. you already know who's going be in the running for win, place, and show long before the horses are on the track.
Firstly, the 5 tourney requirement is only to gain entry into our league only Wed night tourneys. You do not have to post 5 scores every month to stay active...... As long as you post one score, you are still considered active and will not be removed from the rankings page.
Secondly, the schedule is NOT tailored to a select few...... We have absolutely no clue who will be atop the rankings page at the end of the month. It is always a tossup. Yes, there are a few people who are always in the top 10 or 20 month after month..... But ya know why???? Because they are damn good players. NOT because the schedule is somehow tailored to them......
We have members from all over the world. Not just the states. We have more than 4 time zones to think about..... The schedule this league chooses to abide by makes it possible for everyone to have some level of participation. If for some reason, this schedule does not fit into your life...... there are no shortage of leagues out there with more "flexible" schedules..... For God's sakes, everyone and their dog has a poker league these days.......
skj91...... It is fairly obvious that this league is not "tailored" to you, so you may be better off moving along........ This league has survived very well and had great success over the past year. It seems to be working quite well, and it just keeps getting better. This league is a great place. I have been here for a long time. There are many people in this league that I consider very good friends and that I care about. This is like my family, my home........ And I do not take well to people coming into my home and making demands......
To everyone else..... I'm sorry for my little tantrum here, but I had to vent... I could not sit back and not respond..... those of you who have been around and know me.... I know you wouldn't expect anything else from me... Now I will go back to being my sweet self..... _________________ My family puts the "fun" in dysfunctional
you think you have it bad... try living on Pacific time and working a 7:30 to 4:30 (PST) job and where no one gives a rat's hiney, or even so much as takes into consideration your time zone when scheduling these types of events. the fact that you're a whole 3 hours behind them in time and therefore don't have a shot in the dark at ever making it to anything scheduled earlier than 8:00pm Eastern time on weekdays, and really don't fancy waking up at 4:00 or 5:00 AM to make it to the 7:00 or 8:00 AM EST early bird tourneys on the weekends and such, just doesn't enter into their thoughts. trust me, it's quite infuriating and i totally sympathize with you.
now, i'm rather new here - well, ok... so i'm all of about 10 minutes old - but the point is, i haven't yet become familiar with the standard rules for posting and forum etiquette around here so please forgive me if this is a no-no. if it is then please just say so and i will edit out the following paragragh of my post without hesitation. just please don't completely delete my existance here as i do not mean to offend or defy the forum officials. just trying to help out a disgruntled member by informing them of other possibilities. but i only have the patience for so much riffling through and reading of so many forum threads per day and... well who really likes to start with the rules and regulations part of it, you know? don't worry, i will get to it... just not the very first thread i hit, is all. ok, so back to the issue:
JayCeeVU, and everyone else who DOESN'T live on the East Coast (and might i remind everyone that there are more people who don't than do), i suggest checking out The Blue Lizard Lounge for a good community to join if you're looking for tourneys scheduled at a more reasonable time. they're not exactly a 'league' as there are no over-all ranks calculated or any kind of accumulation of points or any prizes other than each individual tourney's set prize pool. but that also means there is no obligation to play in a required number of tourney's each month in order to maintain your membership status, either. it's simply a poker-loving forum community who regularly hold their own private freerolls at various card rooms. the only requirement they have is that you register as member of their forum and make but a single post there. after that, you can enter into any freeroll they have going (which typically fall on tuesdays and thursdays and between 7:30 pm EST and 10:00 PM EST) that you want to. and you can make it or not make it to the tourney; either way, no big deal.
to most everone else who's response to this topic seems, for the most part, rather hostile (if not altogether stuck-up),
you know... if it is a request that tends to keep cropping up over and over, as you say it does, well then gee... don't you think that it just might have some validity to it? and that it just might be something that needs to be addressed?
i mean obviously there is a great many people who have made clear the fact that the current schedule is NOT feasible for them and obviously there has been no effort made what-so-ever to respond to this request. claiming that the dificulty lies is in finding a sponsor who will host games at alternate times is simply ridiculous. as sportsman924 has pointed out, there are plenty who will. JetSet and Pokerstars to start. add Absolute, Poker Host and Tropics for few more. and... well... actually, just about any other card room out there that ISN'T on the Prima Poker or Playtech networks will indeed accomodate for tourneys to be held at any time of day or night.
really, it is the admin's conscious decision to hold the freerolls when they do and they do not have their hands tied when making this decision.
i'm sorry but i'd have to disagree with the viewpoint that this league has done quite well in regard to this particular matter if they won't even so much as acknowledge the rest of the world. perhaps consistancy is the single most negative attribute any given online schedule of events could possibly have. i mean are you open for the world to join you or aren't you?
if the league admin is absolutely dead-set on keeping the schedule as is then hey... they could always get rid of the 5 tourney a month requirement. would you be happier with that? as it is, with the 5 games a month requirement, keeping all tourneys on a schedule that is tailored to allow for only a select group of people to attend is akin to fixing a race. you already know who's going be in the running for win, place, and show long before the horses are on the track.
I would say first off, I take offense at your suggestion that the schedule is a cheat system for the east coast. That's stupid and brings my intentions into question. You have not played the schedule and called it a cheat because an already involved party told you it was wrong. Now you promote that side of a non-issue without any knowledge or evidence.
The schedule infact does not benifit any particular time zone and the day couldn't be broken up better for the entire world.
I'll explain, the intentions of the schedule are not for you to play 3 games a day 3 days a week, as this is the total number of games. It was taylored this way to allow for everyone to have the chance to play 1 game a day 3 days a week. There is 1 game in everyones "offtime" during all league play days.
Did you guys ever consider that before you called me a cheat?
Because there are 20 NCAA basketball games a week doesn't mean U of K plays all 20 now does it? If I changed the schedule system every time a joker like you asked that would be more like cheating wouldn't it? Shouldn't I hold the schedule on a pedistool and not allow it to be monkeyed around with everytime Joe, Bob and Harry said so?
I say you need to backup, take part, then suggest.
Wayne
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